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As you may know, the supporters of the Administration's health care plan are organizing a candlelight vigil at Flagpole Hill on Wednesday night to remember Ted Kennedy and the folks they consider the 'victims' of the current health care system.

 

There is a proposal by a group of Neighborhood Coordinators to organize a demonstration in opposition to their candlelight vigil.

 

Some are persuaded that we need to react to the proponents of HR3200.

 

Others have personal misgivings about organizing a counter-demonstration to a candlelight vigil.

 

We thought it best to put it up for discussion and vote. Please weigh in.

 

by Michael Wilhite  2009-08-30 14:36:23
The media will demonize us, but what's new there? The koolaid drinkers will demonize us, but who gives a s*** about what they think? I don't know what the average American will think, if anything. As my friend Jack Wheeler said: "We are supposed to say good things about the recently dead. Ted Kennedy's dead. GOOD."
Candle light vigil? I'm sure ole Teddy boy is seeng a lot more flame than a few flickering candles about now. That is good, too. He's got all eternity to ruminate on his sorry, sordid, traitorous life.
by Don Peterson  2009-08-30 15:03:26
I completely agree with your assessment of Ted. Good riddance! I do think a substantial portion of fence straddlers may look unfavorably on a protest of a candlelight vigil. We must remember the average citizen gets his news from one of the mainstream outlets and knows nothing of the real Ted Kennedy. I doubt the media would let us give a laundry list of old Teddies "faults" on the evening news so we would do more harm than good. That is my opinion.
by  anonymous (BFE)  2009-10-10 19:08:11
Hey great reply? Exactly why you folks are looked on as loonies.
by Don Peterson  2009-08-30 14:56:13
This is my first involvement since the Tea party in Dallas last spring. I think Ted was a piece of trash both personally and politically but I do not think protesting a vigil will help the fight against socialized medicine. This will backfire against us Im afraid and possibly create more sympathy for the bill. Our talents can be used more effectively elsewhere in my opinion. Lets take it to them on 9/12. If not in DC then in Ft. Worth or other protests across the nation. That's my two cents...
by Sue Haines  2009-08-30 14:56:30
It puts anyone who "reacts" at a disadvantage and makes us look bad in the media as stated by Michael below. If we do anything it should be "proactive", on a different date. I don't want to perpetuate anything to do with Ted Kennedy. The sooner he's forgotten, the better.
by Joseph Aiena  2009-08-30 15:01:09
maybe organize a candle light vigil (for Mary Jo) as a counter, but don't protest. Respond in equal fashion here...
by Larry Wainer  2009-08-30 15:21:29
Don't be fooled or weakened by a "candlelight vigil"! The sponsoring organization is MoveOn.org! We must match their media exposure effort. I'm sure the Founding Fathers were demonized by British loyalists. I honor the memory of Ted Kennedy as a dedicated public servant, but the persistance of his liberal, socialist politics is ruining this country. I mourn for Mary Jo, not Ted!
by Linda Dunn  2009-08-30 15:32:36
I think countering with a seperate candle light vigil for all those who will suffer from the Health Care Bill if it does pass is a good idea. It should be a quiet protest with signs stating facts about who will the victims and maybe everyone should wear the same color shirt like they did at the John Cornyn protest. Just a thought.
by Brian and Cindy Laffler  2009-08-30 15:38:40
It is important to remember that we will be demonized and slandered no matter what we do. We will be accused of evilmongery if we protest a vigil that is "purely to honor the memory of Ted Kennedy." But let's be realistic, this "vigil" has really nothing to do with Kennedy, it is politically motivated in order to pass the bill and Kennedy's death is being used to push the agenda. We should hold a counter-vigil. Something respectable but still gets our message across. I'll say one thing for Kennedy, he said what he stood for and never swayed, which is more than can be said about most of the nimrods in DC. I disagree with everything he stood for, but at least he actually stood for it.
by Gail S  2009-08-30 15:53:04
But there is no reason to not participate. If it is truly a candlelight vigil everyone should be welcome.

I think that conservatives and Tea Party Protesters should show up in their Tea Party t-shirts or other regalia, with signs opposed to government health care and supporting the charitable organizations that do provide this care to the needy. Perhaps this would be a good time for signs supporting all of the charitable organizations that provide these services. Catholic churches and many other charitable organizations are the proper resource for people who lack insurance or the ability to pay for medical care.

The availability of these services should be highlighted. If people failed to get care and died as a consequence, find out if any charitable organization denied them care.

Best regards,
Gail Spurlock

by Connie Williamson  2009-08-30 16:08:17
In my opinion some people that spoke for Ted Kenney at his wake brought in Health Care! At the funeral as well as the burial Health Care was mentioned!! Ted Kennedy wrote a letter that was read at the burial, I didn't know if I were watching a wake, funeral, burial, or a policial rally this weekend! Let's do it!!If we don't they just might get this passed!
by Kendall HAGAN  2009-08-30 16:15:24
I voted 'yes' but with trepidation. Perhaps a later protest at a flag pole (where is the flag pole, by the way??) targeted at the congress people who are using his memory as a bully pulpit.
by  anonymous (BFE)  2009-10-10 19:09:31
Yes let's all look like the rest of the whackos.
by D Wilson  2009-08-30 16:21:11
If we do nothing, they will pursue this. We must look respectful & maybe have our own candles mourning the loss of life that will happen under Obamacare, especially for seniors.
by Judy Lewis  2009-08-30 17:02:59
I say, leave it alone. We have our standards as a group of conservatives. Something like disrupting a vigil is something that is expected of liberals. Remember their protests at soldier funerals. Just because "they" do it, does not make it ok for me.
by Mary White  2009-08-30 18:13:06
I voted Yes, but I will not be able to attend due to an important previous engagement. I believe we have been quiet for too long so I appreciate people standing up.
by Dwayne Windell  2009-08-30 18:36:02
I voted no. As much as I disliked Ted they shouldn't use his death as a political tool and I don't believe any good will come form us using it or trying to counter it. Hopefully even the most uninformed Americans will see this "candlelight vigil" for what it is... a cheap political ploy.
by Paul McGinnis  2009-08-30 19:09:10
We should not hold a protest to the candlelight vigil. If we do, we will be made to look mean and petty by TV - and that may well swing many "middle-of-the-road" people we need on our side straight into the waiting arms of the left-wing radicals. Let's let this one event pass, then protest them at every other venue with the vigor of that day plus what we saved up from this one.

Poem For Today:
Ted is as Dead...
as his Blonde in the Pond.
May Ted rot Down Below...
For poor dead Mary Jo.
by Joseph Simkins  2009-08-30 20:55:25
The protest should be muted and respectful. No mention of Mary Jo. I think it is a good idea to hound these slime balls to the end of the earth.
by  jim.bright  2009-08-30 21:37:29
Don't let their lie about it being a candlelight vigil fool you, this is a pro-healthcare rally that demands we respond in kind.
by Ken Lehocky  2009-08-30 21:52:43
I voted yes, thinking that we counter protest with our own candlelight vigil to pray for those who have died under the socialized system of medicine used world-wide that socialist Democrat's plan to impose on us. Just a thought.

Ken
by Jill Dutton  2009-08-30 22:50:18
No good will come out of showing up at a vigil, legitimate vigil or not. They will only use it to make us look insensitive and disrespectful. And frankly it is disrespectful whether we liked the guy or agreed with him or not.
by Connie Williamson  2009-08-30 22:51:35
I voted earlier yes, however, after reading other comments and thinking about this we may make more of an impact by not showing up and later having our own rally. Hopefully, most people will know that what they are doing Wednesday night is not sincere, and it is using Ted Kenndy's death to further their cause. Watching everything this weekend for me was a joke! His death seemed to be center around getting this Health Care bill passed. It's amazing whats in this bill that has NOTHING to do with Health Care that all of us will be paying for if this gets past. We need to organize to come up with a better plan than Wednesday night at Flag Poll Hill.
by nina Speairs  2009-08-30 22:56:30
Let them have a vigil. Our time is better spent with other activities.
by Donna Albritton  2009-08-30 23:00:29
I vote for a serious and solemn candlelight vigil over the percentge of their lives that our children and grandchildren will have to work for the payment of the debt we are now creating..
by Michael Wilhite  2009-08-30 23:02:35
The more I think about it:Ignore them entirely. It is a non-event of no real importance, unless we show up. Let's go support Sam and Jeb et al on Monday night, instead.
by  Jandjluster  2009-08-30 23:02:46
I'm not for crashing anyone's private party--even tho I agree, Ted Kennedy was a piece of trash from a mostly corrupt family. When it's a public event, or one that impacts our lives, I say yes. We should not be as those classless demonstrators that butt into funerals and private lives.
by MW  2009-08-30 23:10:34
Vote for Obamacare It would have sent Teddy to meet his Maker sooner. Just a thought for a sign at an anti-Healthcare Hijack rally.
by Carroll Rogers  2009-08-30 23:28:18
I disliked Ted Kennedy as much as anyone but to protest at their event would be a show of disrespect that is common for liberals....not conservatives.
by  kensley.stewart  2009-08-30 23:34:27
No signs, no exchanges. Observe in case our actions are misconstrued or IF Larouchites show as US.
by hairball600  2009-08-30 23:41:46
I feel that we should have our own vigil but at where the liberals are,the media will demonize us but on the other hand people will see us too. s$%#w the media.
by  sportbike100  2009-08-30 23:43:02
if we do anything it should be a vigil for mary joe who never got a chance to live out her life, after the coward ran home and hide..

he should have done prison time..
by Paul McGinnis  2009-08-30 23:44:58
I wish I had though of this!!! At a separate event we can get our message out with clarity and dignity - and we need to make a CONCERTED AND FOCUSED effort to get the media there to cover it. If we instead choose to show up as at the "candle-light vigil" for Teddy, we look like assholes. Lt's let the left-wingers look like opportunitistic vultures leeching off of Teddy's death at their "candle-light" vigil while we have a "straight-up" counter-event elsewhere.
by    2009-08-31 00:11:22
My thought has always been; show up san signs and scope out what they're doing. If- as I fully expect- this really just a rally for government healthcare, signs and all, we rally to apprciate what private health care has done for all of us- INCLUDING TED KENNEDY.
by    2009-08-31 00:16:17
Again, I forward this link of what these EXACT same people were doing in Austin AT THE TIME OF TED"S MEMORIAL SERVICE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evpXrI_NGHg
by Peter G Yavner  2009-08-31 00:48:48
Show up, quietly, peacefully... "We are here,,,"
by Terry  2009-08-31 01:13:00
You can't really protest a candlelight vigil. Doesn't make sense. I don't want to end up being AGAINST everything, I want the Tea party to be FOR freedom.
by nathan davison  2009-08-31 08:29:09
and we should have bigger candles dedicated to all the people who died b/c their government rationed their healthcare, and all the people who weren't saved by the cures that weren't discovered by the doctors who got fed up with overregulation and quit.

half of our healthcare industry is already the government and that's the problem.
by Dahlia Riley  2009-08-31 08:52:00
by  ask.eileen  2009-08-31 08:55:35
Let them have their time of mourning. Be respectful of a loss of life, even if we did not agree with his views. Hold our values of life at a premium. Stand for respectful passing. Do not use this time or place for a protest.
by Edwina Rymer  2009-08-31 09:17:27
After reading the blogs, I change my mind and think we should hold a candle light vigil at the same location. Kennedy was a victim of current healthcare? Please! Will we have the same candle light vigil for the millions who will die when we have Obamacare because they were denied healthcare because of rationing not because they didn't have or choose not to take advantage of programs available to them?
by Gene Freeman  2009-08-31 11:09:28
We need to be where the media goes!! Most likely where the lefties go!
by  roger.roney  2009-08-31 17:52:51
I did not agree with one thing Teddie ever said or did in his life...BUT Candlelight vigils have the aura of being quiet and solemn events, even if they are used by their supporters to garner support for their cause. And given that, any protest could be spun by the media as insensitive and uncaring and hurt our movement's integrity. And, integrity is what this movement has always been about. I have never commented here before, and I want to get back at these idiots everyway we can, but it could be a PR disaster to not let them have their vigil without interruption. A better thing for us to do would be to have a counter vigil praying for the revitalization of the American way -- honesty, fairness, free choice, local control. After that, then we can go at them as hard as we want...
by Tina Looney  2009-09-01 10:42:40
by Kerry Pierson  2009-09-01 12:04:50
Separate event to Support our Healthcare. Be Prepared. Read "Top Ten Myths of American Healthcare" by Sally Pipes. Our country has the best healthcare and we should NOT allow others to "ridicule"(see Alinsky) the best system in the world.
by lana  2009-09-02 05:43:30
The guy worked on trying to pass a government ran HC plan for 40 years and failed ...that tells you there must have been something wrong with the thing. So he couldn't get it passed in the Senate so he passed it off to his state which is broken!
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